I'm a pretty passive observer here, but this is an interesting thread. One thing that seems to be reocurring - Daevryn, it seems like most of your counter arguments come down to: "When I play this class I don't have this problem, or I pwn people in this situation". The problem is that 99.99999999% of people are never going to be even in the same stratosphere of your CF competence, so unfortunately I'm not sure you're able to be unbiased (not your fault).

So while you may never run out of moves, or own people with your with your lvl 14 invoker, no one else except maybe 2 or 3 others that will ever play CF will have these same experiences, so I'm not sure that should influence your decisions on what to nerf.

Anyway, my $0.02.