--PS - Yes, I qualify getting Dullameh to stumble into one of your briars unprotected under a full moon as PK strategy. Ideally, if you're facing quality opposition, they're going to learn from their mistakes and you won't be able to reproduce a "trick" reliably - if you are reproducing the same trick over and over to a witless foe.. isn't that a little boring and unchallenging?

-Nah, didn't mean it like that, I'm just stating something along the lines of what Thror was mentioning with routing in a way. The difference being, on a full moon, Dullameh isn't going to be routed my way, few are so I usually have to come up with alternative means. My main point was that you cannot count on blind luck and call it a strategy, and you cannot say that blind luck is supposed to be a factor in determining class strengths/weaknesses. Invokers biggest con IMHO is the fact that people fear them. I should know since the fact that people don't fear me has been my biggest supply of foe-corpses to date. People know to fear invokers, even the newest of newbies, and thus, they know not to take risks, which, over their shields or spells or surprise value or whatever, is their worst con, that is what deprives them of kills.

And you're right about the boring and unchallenging bit, all these people continually script-prac'ing in Prosimy and Barovia need to learn that it is simply asking to die.

On a sidenote Imms, thanks for the carapace change, very cool indeed, a reason to get protective herbs for sure.