I honestly don't get you guys sometimes. Bringing more players in never makes of the top of the list? Players are willing to donate hundreds of dollars for something that, what might take an hour or three to do tops and Zhulg's response after a month is basically #### off I'm busy. An email to TMS hey how much and how do I pay what are the icon requirements, have people put Icon as the note in their PayPal, take the CF Icon which already exists and make it the size they need, and have the person who collects the PayPal money already pay for it. If Zhulgh is too busy then give authority to one of the other IMPS, does everything need to be so insanely micromanaged? Seriously let's not pretend it's some kind of massive ordeal. It seems like to me that since our past marketing attempts have obviously overall been a massive failure it might be worth it to try something new? And the argument that having an icon on TMS, an icon in CMUD/ZMUD or hell even getting our info right in CMUD/ZMUD won't bring in any new players is ####. I can tell you right now that I would click any of the ones with an icon way before one without if I was going to pick a random new mud to play. Hell even if I saw CF's desc in Zmud/Cmud list and picked it to have it be the wrong IP, I would just pick another in the list. Having 20 new types of ghoul is great but you would think having more than 15 players at what used to be peak hours would come first.

P.S. Don't mean to come off harsh, just completely mystified at this attitude.