1. When you first applied to join the CF team, what was it you wanted to bring to the game? How have your continuing contributions and goals changed since those early days?

2. If you were to chart yourself as an Achiever, Explorer, Killer, or Socializer (from the Bartle test or derivative) where do you fall? Have you perceived a change over time?

1) When I first joined? I can't remember...I do remember that after Saher left, one of my goals was to become *the* goodly imm on CF...and sorta wanted to be the authority of good. Admittedly the religion helped a lot....but I'd say I managed to get that one done. Beyond that...*shrug* there's still stuff I want to add to CF...and I Swear, eventually I will get around to it.

2) I'd have to say that I'm a Socializer/Achiever...and yeah there has been a shift over time, I can say I've pretty much come full circle...since for a very brief period of time, I found myself thrilled by the killer aspect of the game. But, over time we all return to our truer form....and behold, there be I.

When I applied, I was hoping to (eventually) do something code-related and/or police for cheating. Obviously those activities are reserved for higher-ups; I knew that from the outset, but thought I could stand doing the "other stuff" long enough to reach a point where I could what I actually wanted to do. Boy was I wrong.

When I first started I suspect I was Achiever/Explorer. Now I think I'm Achiever/Killer. Definitely not Socializer.

>1. When you first applied to join the CF team, what was it
>you wanted to bring to the game? How have your continuing
>contributions and goals changed since those early days?
To give back to the game that has entrapped my soul for over 10 years.
Too fresh to have changed. I have imm'd chars that were just so damn fun to play I didn't want them to die.


>2. If you were to chart yourself as an Achiever, Explorer,
>Killer, or Socializer (from the Bartle test or derivative)
>where do you fall? Have you perceived a change over time?

Killer: 73%
Explorer: 60%
Achiever: 46%
Socializer: 20%

I have to say that I see myself as trying to Achieve Socializing Killer status. But I try not to play the same type of chars back to back, most times my chars will be the antithesis of the last one. Or sometime I will try to play a class that wiped the floor with me and try to figure out its weaknesses and strengths. I play to have fun, not for high pk ratios, or uber-sets.

To answer 2:

I found a piratey Bartle test derivative from:

http://www.black-knight.org/pp/bartle/genq.cgi

The terminology is piratey, but it is not hard to translate brigands into mobs etc.

My score was:

Thanks for taking this test. You are pirate number 20557 to have done so.
Your type is SEK. 3% of the respondents thus far are of this type.

Your scores were as follows:

Socializer: 80%
Explorer: 66%
Killer: 26%
Achiever: 26%


An average score is 50%, with a maximum of 100%; the scores will total to 200%, since there are 30 questions, half of which are applicable to each type.

What scores do you people get from that test?

I'm sure this is no suprise to anyone, my results:


Thanks for taking this test. You are pirate number 20562 to have done so.
Your type is KEA. 9% of the respondents thus far are of this type.

Your scores were as follows:

Killer: 86%
Explorer: 60%
Achiever: 40%
Socializer: 13%


An average score is 50%, with a maximum of 100%; the scores will total to 200%, since there are 30 questions, half of which are applicable to each type.

My results

Explorer: 73%
Socializer: 53%
Killer: 46%
Achiever: 26%

Thanks for taking this test. You are pirate number 20576 to have done so.
Your type is KEA. 9% of the respondents thus far are of this type.

Your scores were as follows:

Killer: 86%
Explorer: 53%
Achiever: 33%
Socializer: 26%

Thanks for taking this test. You are pirate number 20577 to have done so.
Your type is AKE. 2% of the respondents thus far are of this type.

Your scores were as follows:

Achiever: 73%
Killer: 60%
Explorer: 46%
Socializer: 20%


An average score is 50%, with a maximum of 100%; the scores will total to 200%, since there are 30 questions, half of which are applicable to each type.

Killer: 94%
Socializer: 40%
Explorer: 33%
Achiever: 33%

Thanks for taking this test. You are pirate number 20581 to have done so.
Your type is KEA. 9% of the respondents thus far are of this type.

Your scores were as follows:

Killer: 100%
Explorer: 46%
Achiever: 33%
Socializer: 20%


An average score is 50%, with a maximum of 100%; the scores will total to 200%, since there are 30 questions, half of which are applicable to each type.

Thanks for taking this test. You are pirate number 20583 to have done so.
Your type is KEA. 9% of the respondents thus far are of this type.

Your scores were as follows:

Killer: 93%
Explorer: 40%
Achiever: 40%
Socializer: 26%


An average score is 50%, with a maximum of 100%; the scores will total to 200%, since there are 30 questions, half of which are applicable to each type.

Socializer: 66%
Explorer: 53%
Killer: 48%
Achiever: 32%

Socializer: 66%
Explorer: 60%
Killer: 40%
Achiever: 33%

Seems about right to me. I expected I'd be mid-range on all categories, as opposed to having extremely high or low ratings in any one.

Incidentally it doesn't surprise me Shokai that your ratings are similar to mine.

Man...did I call it or what...

In other thread:
>2. If you were to chart yourself as an Achiever, Explorer,
>Killer, or Socializer (from the Bartle test or derivative)
>where do you fall? Have you perceived a change over time?

Achiever, Killer, Explorer, Socializer

Nah, I'm still pretty much that same guy whether it be this game or any other.



Your scores were as follows:

Achiever: 73%
Killer: 66%
Explorer: 60%
Socializer: 0%

Your type is EKS. 2% of the respondents thus far are of this type.

Your scores were as follows:

Explorer: 73%
Killer: 60%
Socializer: 33%
Achiever: 33%

Your scores were as follows:

Explorer: 80%
Killer: 46%
Achiever: 46%
Socializer: 26%

Killer: 86%
Achiever: 66%
Explorer: 40%
Socializer: 6%

Your type is KES. 5% of the respondents thus far are of this type.

Your scores were as follows:
Killer: 86%
Explorer: 60%
Socializer: 26%
Achiever: 26%

1. When you first applied to join the CF team, what was it you wanted to bring to the game? How have your continuing contributions and goals changed since those early days?

I just wanted an opportunity to contribute creatively to a game I enjoyed. I always enjoyed being gamemaster in pen and paper RPGS, so applying to imm seemed like a logical extention of play for me.

2. If you were to chart yourself as an Achiever, Explorer, Killer, or Socializer (from the Bartle test or derivative) where do you fall? Have you perceived a change over time?

Now: Socializer, Explorer, Killer, Achiever

When I started: Socializer, Explorer, Achiever, Killer

My interest in achievement have dropped, while my interest in killing has increased. Being part of the MUD so long has made measureable achievement less desirable to me, while years of maturing/mellowing has made my PK failures less bothersome. Because my failures are less bothersome, I'm more willing to engage in it, and am also slightly better at it. I would also say my interest in Exploration has increased from when I started.. when I started.. the whole mud was confusing and daunting and I just wanted a character with 'gate' so I wouldn't have to bother. Once I learned the ropes, exploration became more desirable.

Somehow I had this odd feeling your score was going to be the same as mine. It's gotta be a picean thing.

>1. When you first applied to join the CF team, what was it
>you wanted to bring to the game? How have your continuing
>contributions and goals changed since those early days?

In the beginning, I wanted to just be involved in the creation and design of the game. Honestly...one thing I wanted for ####ing ever was an emote when something assists (screams and attacks you), and another for wiping the dirt out of your eyes. Tiny little things that to me make a huge difference.

My goals and contributions have changed dramatically, but always I just want to keep making the game better. People look back with rose-colored glasses, and I look back and think how ####ed up and unbalanced it all was :)


>2. If you were to chart yourself as an Achiever, Explorer,
>Killer, or Socializer (from the Bartle test or derivative)
>where do you fall? Have you perceived a change over time?

Achiever, Killer, Explorer, Socializer

Nah, I'm still pretty much that same guy whether it be this game or any other.

A nice question. Thanks.

I had no real idea what I wanted to bring to CF, but mostly they were lofty ideals of High Fantasy. Rolling the two questions together, I always enjoyed the socializations and interactions. I enjoy folks having a good time which gives me a great deal of personal satistfaction, so I do as much immteraction stuff as I am able, and almost always I am snooping on someone.

I was a killer type for a while, I was just best at killing myself or getting myself killed. Generally I suck at such things and have little to no idea about preps and their locations, so I am mostly just meat for any half-skilled player.

>1. When you first applied to join the CF team, what was it
>you wanted to bring to the game? How have your continuing
>contributions and goals changed since those early days?

I couldn't fairly say what really got me started. It's been a long time. Let's say a desire to make and play a better game.

My earliest contributions were in the form of game mechanics / balance changes. I spit out a lot of ideas and for the most part they seemed initially to be ignored; eventually I realized that the Powers that Be had come to decide I wasn't a complete tool and had started implementing some of them.

Since then, I go through phases. Sometimes I'm into area writing, sometimes quests, sometimes running a cabal and/or religion and doing that kind of interactiony thing, sometimes I want to do a big project like a revamp, sometimes I want to implement smaller projects or just fix up existing code. Sometimes I just want to play one or more really cool/fun mortals. ;)

>2. If you were to chart yourself as an Achiever, Explorer,
>Killer, or Socializer (from the Bartle test or derivative)
>where do you fall? Have you perceived a change over time?

It's been a while since I took the test, but I want to say it ranked me in order: Killer, Explorer, Socializer, Achiever. The whole achiever paradigm doesn't much appeal to me, but I enjoy the other three aspects a lot, with some characters exemplifying one more than the other two.

>1. When you first applied to join the CF team, what was it
>you wanted to bring to the game? How have your continuing
>contributions and goals changed since those early days?

I wanted to be the imm who specialized in immteraction. I always enjoyed getting the good immteraction as a player and thought there should be more. Very little has changed for me. This is a good thing. I find myself still enjoying interacting with the players. Every once in awhile, I have to deal with same lame crap, but, doesn't everyone? I have met the reasonable goals I have set for myself and know my strengths, weaknesses and limitations. I try not to stretch myself thin so that I can keep a fresh perspective.
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>2. If you were to chart yourself as an Achiever, Explorer,
>Killer, or Socializer (from the Bartle test or derivative)
>where do you fall? Have you perceived a change over time?
I could fall into any of these categories. If anything, I have softened a bit from the Killer perspective. I haven't had a hero in a year and he was a loner for the most part who only killed people who were considered tough. I left the bulk of my pk range alone. I do my socializing playing as an immortal. This is another of those don't stretch yourself too thin things. I haven't played a truly social type character since I imm'd. That isn't to say my characters have been totally anti-social. Just more of the types you would expect to not have many friends, but would talk to anyone who wished a conversation. Exploration was something that I did a lot of pre-imm. I think being able to put in 1500 hours a year plus some mortal time is achievement enough to consider me an achiever.
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My goals were to do quests, interact a lot, and run a cabal. Overtime
I've pretty much been doing those things, though I started out a bit
more involved in area stuff, but no so much anymore.

I think of myself as a Socializing Achiever, though I've never taken the
test to which you refer. I've probably become a little less social over
time for various reasons. Nothing bad, just sometimes I wanna be on
and watch followers, cabal folks and generally avoid chatter that doesn't
apply to those two things.

G.