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Topic subjectWow. This is cool. I'll post second. What do all you IMMs do in RL?
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2, Wow. This is cool. I'll post second. What do all you IMMs do in RL?
Posted by TheLastMohican on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Heh.

Right now I work in DVD Distribution for an online company.
1131, Never Posted
Posted by Kastellyn on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Guess I thought I did. I'm a helicopter pilot for the US Navy, though I'm senior enough that I don't fly very much these days. I work for a major staff, so I do a lot of PowerPoint and Excel analysis. Stationed in San Diego, hoping to stay here for my next set of orders!

I wish I could MUD from work, but the IT security bastards shut down whatever port worked about a year ago, and I haven't been able to since.

Kastellyn the Devourer of Magic, Lord of Legends
1273, RE: Never Posted
Posted by colospgsbryan on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Nice, I was stationed in Miramar for a bit. Loved every minute of San Diego. The girls, beaches, in and out... It was awesome.
1085, Aspiring high school history teacher...
Posted by Millso7 on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
...unfortunately, there is not a high demand for teachers here in Maine now that funding has been cut tremendously. I'll be heading out of state soon, hopefully.
1089, From one to another... good luck. nt
Posted by Nivek1 on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
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1096, Haha! No doubt I'll need it!!! nt
Posted by Millso7 on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
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1073, RE: Wow. This is cool. I'll post second. What do all you IMMs do in RL?
Posted by Kirslamix on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I'm currently working as a Personal Trainer in the ol' outback Australia. Okay not really the outback I live in Sydney but hey! Atm just working in a gym, but hopefully i'll move more so into the Outdoor training. More fun and more money. Yay!
555, Now that I'm officially visible, I can finally answer s...
Posted by Twist on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I'm the Operations Director for the "Internet Marketing" arm (www.k2interactive.com) of an advertising agency (www.kranzlerkingsley.com). Basically that entails:

1. Anything computer-related - servers, workstations, network equipment, etc. I occasionally even get asked to work on fax machines and video conferencing equipment (Which I love. Honest.).

2. Pseudo-production manager - make sure all web developers have stuff to work on and know what is next in line etc.

3. Bid-guy - when an Account rep wants to give an estimate to a prospective client for a website that includes A, B, C, D, NOT E, F, and a little G, I tell them how much that'll all cost.

4. Account Executive - about 50 percent of our clients deal directly with me, and I am responsible for adding a small portion of new business (definitely less new business than other AE's though).

5. Search Engine pay-per-click account work (do a search on Google for "indian casino marketing" and my parent company, Kranzler Kingsley, should come up under sponsored links).

That's mostly it. I also end up doing a lot of proofreading of email newsletters, websites, print ads, etc. Ad agencies need proofreaders more than you might think.
1122, You still do advertising?
Posted by Treebeard on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I was working for a 15-20 man firm for a while, doing a lot of SEM/PPC stuff. Its a little dry, but not boring.

Where do you work? I'm in the Wash, DC area but thinking of moving to Boston...
1123, Yep.
Posted by Twist on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
We're in the thriving metropolis known as Bismarck, ND. About 25 employees.

www.kranzlerkingsley.com
www.k2interactive.com
1124, Bismarck!?
Posted by Straklaw on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Jeezuz, I've moved my nodak HQ from ####inson to Grand Forks, and never knew I coulda stopped and grabbed a beer with you!??!? This needs remedied! Pronto!
1125, Beer?
Posted by Twist on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Does your Nodak HQ need a website? Advertising? Perhaps some media placement, or PR work?

Let me know, then I can buy the beer. :)
1126, Actually, hell, maybe!
Posted by Straklaw on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I work for Borrowed Buck's, and they just fired the local general manager here because they're not really happy with the bar being slow the last year or two. Unfortunately, I'm not the one to make those calls, but I'll suggest it, hehe.
1129, Don't Bother...
Posted by Twist on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Send me an email - twist@carrionfields.com if you want details on why. :)
518, RE: Wow. This is cool. I'll post second. What do all you IMMs do in RL?
Posted by Pico on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Human Factors Engineer.

I'm sure you all know what those are. ;)
1084, You're teh master of disaster? nt
Posted by Marcus_ on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
nt
219, I work for MI5 in Cardiff Branch, yes we have one there and
Posted by Abernyte on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
no I wont tell you where.

-----Abernyte
240, I guess...
Posted by GinGa on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
The Valleys really need watching. You never know what those sheepherders might do for this 'new welsh government'.

Keep your eyes to the incomprehensible men (and women) from the north. I smell rebellion. Though I have been known to mix that smell up with strong cider.

Or on the more serious side, I'm glad we have someone protecting the Brains factory from terrorist bombings :D
(though my taste for ale, has slipped more towards non-brains of late)

Yhorian.

Edit: Did Doctor who film inside your offices yet? *evil grin*
144, RE: Wow. This is cool. I'll post second. What do all you IMMs do in RL?
Posted by shokai on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM



chef...currently a banquet chef down in Tampa. It's an interesting gig...but if you want a life outside of work, don't follow in my footsteps kids.
145, RE: Wow. This is cool. I'll post second. What do all you IMMs do in RL?
Posted by dwimmerling on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
What happened to the tapas bar gig?

and spill what you're cooking lately that really gets you excited, I just gave up the culinary gig for a more livable occupation, at least in iowa, we don't get the tourists. . .}
124, As Balrahd said, Law School (Los Angeles Area)
Posted by Runaktla on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I currently go to a po-dunk law school named UWLA (University
of West Los Angeles). I also work at the job I've been working
for five years as a probate paralegal, where I get to profit
off of people who've been PK'd recently :P

Two years through of law school, two years to go.

- Eric
115, Domestic Goddess
Posted by Amaranthe on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Otherwise known as Stay-at-Home-Mom. I cook, clean, garden, and wrastle/teach/chaeuffer two young girls not yet in school. I also volunteer for the local MOMS Club Chapter. As part of this I also host a goofy web site - www.kideas.com - where I document/share stuff I do with my kids (or stuff other moms I know do with their kids.) It might be of interest to those of you with rugrats of your own.

I also do a bit of freelance graphic design work, which is what I did full time (in a design house, not freelance) prior to spawning. Some months it's a pretty solid part-time job.. other months, it's nothing. I also do volunteer graphic design work for the MOMS Club and my synagogue.

And since my current status has made me loathe the "what do you do" question being linked to only what you are paid for, I'll also add my hobbies: enjoying sci-fi and fantasy books and entertainment of all types, Aikido training, hiking, writing, mural-painting and other arts.
107, I ain't no IMM but...
Posted by Saith on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I'm currently a line cook in a resteruant(sp) in Shallotte, NC. "Duffer's Bar and Grill"

Before that though I worked for a year and a half on Bald Head Island. I painted for a construction crew which was a lot of fun. Eventually though my boss 86'd the paint department so he moved us over to actual construction, which was a lot of fun also.

Other than those, most of my work has been in the food industry. But I enjoy it. Not saying I wouldn't like to return to school and do something else... its paid the bills so far.
109, Hah... I've been there
Posted by Sebeok on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
My folks live in St. James Plantation - I'm heading down there this weekend for a week or so vacation :P
112, Groovy...
Posted by Saith on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Southport is alright, but I'm sure you know there isn't much to do there. If you feel like it, stop by Shallotte and drop by Duffer's. The Chicken Gyro and the Cuban are both really good.

Hope you enjoy yourself!!
113, Definitely
Posted by Sebeok on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Yeah I usually end up drinking with the waitresses and bartenders, going up to Wilmington or down to Myrtle. Southport's option is not much of an option.. Skippers! I'll try and stop by.

68, Management consultant
Posted by Marcus_ on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Working mostly with leadership development & leadership assessment. I'm working for a really small company (6 employees) which is nice, since you get to be involved in pretty much everything that's important.

I'm currently writing a book about leadership and organizational culture. Yesterday, my boss called me and informed he that he had decided the book was to be in swedish rather than english, so I'm currently stuck translating the 110 pages I've written so far, gnnhrr...

Anyway, once this book is done I'll probably get a degree in computer science as well, and either go for software development(i have some ideas) or IT security.
51, Super Secret Ninja Mercenary
Posted by Corrlaan on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM


I wish.

Worked in the Animal Care industry for 6 years full time. Bird Keeper or Aviculturist, if you wanna sound technical. Did some field research, conservation stuff.

Quit job a year and a half ago to follow the wife to a good paying step in her career. Contemplating now getting back into the work force in a completely different capacity but still related to zoos in general.

Also teach karate and self-defense to whomever will pay me to do so.

38, RE: Wow. This is cool. I'll post second. What do all you IMMs do in RL?
Posted by Thrakburzug on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Quit my job two years ago to go to law school and no regrets whatsoever.
54, RE: Wow. This is cool. I'll post second. What do all you IMMs do in RL?
Posted by Vershelt on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Where?
55, RE: Wow. This is cool. I'll post second. What do all you IMMs do in RL?
Posted by Thrakburzug on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Ohio State in Columbus.
56, RE: Wow. This is cool. I'll post second. What do all you IMMs do in RL?
Posted by trh on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
You live in Columbus? Which part of Columbus? How old are you (if you don't mind my asking)? I live there too, and wouldn't mind getting in touch with some of the CF community and maybe grabbing a beer or something.
104, RE: Wow. This is cool. I'll post second. What do all...
Posted by Thrakburzug on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I am 37.

I don't tend to mix with folks I mud with. I have only met two other Imms in the 9-10 years I have been here, and that didn't even include Amlaruil, who actually worked in the same building as I did for a year or so while we were both heroimms. While I appreciate the gesture, my schedule tends to fill up with family and school and work so I think I will respectfully decline. As far as I know there are a few other players in the Columbus area though, or at least have been historically, and there might still be a few out there. Iirc, Ryu was even from Columbus for those who remember him :P
116, At least tell me you're a Buckeye's fan...
Posted by trh on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Because they're going to have a hell of a season this year.
59, RE: Wow. This is cool. I'll post second. What do all you IMMs do in RL?
Posted by Vershelt on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
What did you just do for your second summer, and what do you want to do after you graduate?
103, RE: Wow. This is cool. I'll post second. What do all you IMMs do in RL?
Posted by Thrakburzug on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
For my second summer I worked in a juvenile law clinic. I don't think I want to do a big firm experience as I have done enough corporate work for my tastes in the past (unless someone out there wants to offer me a nice enough paycheck that I can hold my nose and support my family without too much compromise.) Most likely I will end up in some form of public sector job or something of that ilk.
106, RE: Wow. This is cool. I'll post second. What do all you IMMs do in RL?
Posted by Graatch on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I wouldn't be so cynical about big firm life and the need to hold your nose. And while you evidently have had plenty of corporate work, corporate law work is not the same. Or at least somewhat different.

Having said that, I of course applaud the desire to work in the public sector or non-profit organizations, and have some contacts from my pro bono work. If you want to discuss, feel free to email me.

Either way, enjoy third year, it's busy, but usually very fun.
111, RE: Wow. This is cool. I'll post second. What do all you IMMs do in RL?
Posted by Thrakburzug on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
The short answer is that you are right and that life in a corporate law firm is most likely quite different from life in a big corporation. However, because I did not have a summer job this past summer at a big firm, there is almost zero chance I would be hired by one now coming out of law school. I accept this, although I did not know it when I started. When I entered law school, I did not know any lawyers, nor were there any lawyers in my family to advise me of how to handle law school.

If there are any aspiring lawyers out there, my recommendation for handling law school would be to do roughly the opposite of what I did. The first year is such a key to everything that comes after it that you should put a ton of effort into it. I am talking about 15-18 hour days, seven days a week. Live in the library. Buy every study guide you can find and use them religiously. This should position you to be quite highly ranked in your class, which is the key to almost everything. You might even grade onto journal from this, or you might have to write on, but do try to get onto the main law journal at your school. The first year summer should be spent working with a professor. Ideally it should be someone you like and agree with or someone who is well published. Then you come back after the first summer and do the on campus interviewing. Put a ton of energy into this. Apply everywhere you can and interview as much as possible. This should get you a firm job for the following summer. After that you can sit back and enjoy law school. You will find that the knowledge and habits you developed the first year will carry you through the last two working just eight hour days 5-6 days a week (which is basically a normal workweek for the rest of the working world). The job you get for your second summer almost always turns into an offer for after you graduate. Even if you decide you want to do something else instead of that big firm, most employers are obsessed with your GPA/class rank and this is determined heavily by your performance during the first year, so by concentrating on the first year classes, you should be in great shape for anything you want to do.

I, on the other hand, have a family and did not have a desire to put in that kind of time and risk a divorce. I treated law school the first year (and the second and the third) as a full time job, putting in 8-9 hour days all week and not even taking reading home with me so I could spend more time with my family. I had a good law job my first summer and have developed a wide variety of skills and knowledge and I should be fairly well positioned for some form of governmental job (I hope) but I do recommend the other approach instead (although I still most likely would not do it that way were I to do it again as I value my family time more than anything else.)

Nonetheless, I do plan on enjoying my third year.
63, RE: Wow. This is cool. I'll post second. What do all you IMMs do in RL?
Posted by Isildur on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
How many lawyers is that now? Vershelt and Thrak is two. If you include CF "alumni", Enbuergo's in law school I think. Balrahd. There used to be some other guy on my aim list that I think was a lawyer, but damned if I can remember his name.
67, Jegec, Runaktla, Arcane
Posted by Balrahd on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Are lawyers or in law school. There are probably tons more. The thing is, though, that law schools are teeming with applicants. I won't quite forget the experience of taking the California bar in a room the size of an airplane hanger.. with over 3,000 other sitters. It took me until the second day to realize that the loudspeaker voice dictating instructions in a monotone drone actually belonged to a real person way up at the front of the room. He was that far away.
36, RE: Wow. This is cool. I'll post second. What do all you IMMs do in RL?
Posted by Lyristeon on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Dad, ecom host (runs by itself), child safety product developer and contractor sales (South Florida has too much work not to be involved somehow).
1128, Hey... If you're who I think you are, I'd like you to hit me up via email.
Posted by TheProphet on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
rob@yourownstore.com

Thanks.
18, General-purpose science nerd.
Posted by Valguarnera on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Presently, I design and test public safety devices for the U.S. government, specifically warning systems for biological or chemical attacks. The goal is to have devices that can be carried in a backpack, and provide instant alerts if a specific agent is detected in an air or water supply. We've been making progress roughly on the expected schedule on a couple different designs, but that goal is still a ways off.

I'd like to transition into more of an analyst/advisor than a 'widget-maker'. I've had a lot of luck as a 'translator' between technical and non-technical people (or just between technical people who don't overlap in expertise), and you just may have noticed examples where influential people know jack about science. Portions of the government (military, law enforcement, intelligence, the less... uh... "faith-based" (*) sectors of government, etc.) have definitely noticed this, and they've recently been hiring more people who have a research background. So I'm floating resumes while I'm building my widgets, and we'll see where it goes.

valguarnera@carrionfields.com

(*): This is also the term we use when people ask us for impossible things. For example, when you tell us that our device needs to cost less than $500/ea and fit in your hand, and our best-case estimates for the initial builds are about 50-100x pricier and larger, that is a "faith-based" device request. (Fun quote from someone well above me: "I should ask them if they want the handheld $500 device delivered by unicorn.")
28, Ok, semi-fun question:
Posted by TheDude on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Do the people you work with know you are like one of the head-implementor-dudes on an internet text-based roleplaying game?

Am wondering if that'd be a plus or a gianormous negative, in terms of job security...

Oh, and also, the game kicks some serious techie ass. I'm getting a pal involved and he's gonna dig it ;-P.
17, Eight years of...
Posted by Lightmage on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
being a private investigator. Locating people and preparing court evidence 90% of the time...then once and a while I get stuck on a surveillance contract for 4-5 day stretches...(Blech)
16, Information Security
Posted by Ysaloerye on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
For a major University.
Mudding from work and 3 day weekends in the Summer WhooHoo!

and martial arts instructor part-time.
31, I used to work in accounting for the Univ of MN..
Posted by Mylinos on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
never mudded more for work in my life, damn wonder why I left. :P
15, Peace Activist
Posted by Muuloc on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Grassroots yo.
110, RE: Peace Activist
Posted by Urog on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Pfft. You're not even old enough to drink yet.
152, I bet someone would let him use a gun though!
Posted by Drag0nSt0rm on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
And I dunno about Muuloc, but that'd make me a peace activist.
10, Retired
Posted by Eshval on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Generally, I sit on my farm and raise critters and keep busy as needed. When I find something that catches my interest, I act as a consultant for environmental issues.
9, If you really want to know...
Posted by Alenysi on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I don't do much...as I am just a lazy college student(sophomore). Because of some interesting incidents in my life, I am out of work at the moment, but I plan on getting an office job in the near future(another move in a week). Eventually I'll get a real job.

-Alenysi
8, Firefighter
Posted by berserk_eagle on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I'm a firefighter. Love the job.
6, Snippet from the ol' resume.
Posted by Grurk Muouk on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
IBM Global Services
ITG Deskside

Provide second and third level technical support to all Public Sector staff in addition to bringing innovative techniques to improve our processes.

Assist in monitoring all ticketing systems to ensure all new tickets and tickets needing follow up are handled promptly.

Research and present new techniques for improving the current process.

Heavy user interaction primarily via phone and in-person.

Configure and deploy approximately 100 PC's and Laptops per week.

Maintain positive control of all PC and laptop assets, including duties of shipping and receiving new assets.



And yay! for mudding from work!


G.
24, Ruh-roh.
Posted by TheDude on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I've worked with IGS* for the past six years as a long-term contractor (Poughkeepsie folks, Boulder folks, Raleigh folks mostly... you there?).

Dang, Grurk, I might just have interracted with you in the real world.

I'd tell you the project I work on, but I do not want to incriminate myself ;-).

I apologize if you must work fixing any bugs I have in code over the weekends/after hours/etc, as IBM just cut overtime pay for us contractors and I no longer work weekends or anytime after my 8 hours at work until they come to terms. IBM is the suxxors in terms of taking care of its employees (Not a flame, I swear!!).

Cool beans, man.

Oh, and please, please, get something done to improve their current process!!!!!!!!!!

PEace and Love, and hope to interract with another rational person in IBM...

*IGS==Infernal Grumbling Simians. Hah, joking. That's my favorite acronym in a microcosm which loves acronyms.



27, RE: Ruh-roh.
Posted by Grurk Muouk on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Heh, I work in the Fairlakes office, Public Sector Deskside. I don't
do much with IGS, so we probably didn't interact. :)

Drop me an email, we can trade sametime.. I'll fix your laptop whenever
you have a glitch. :P


-G
5, Computer nerd!
Posted by Sebeok on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Director of IT for an international chemical manufacturing company. Not nearly as sexy as it sounds.


89, RE: Computer nerd!
Posted by Zulghinlour on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Lead Software Development Engineer in Test at a large software company. I get paid to write code (and test it to)
96, RE: Computer nerd!
Posted by Isildur on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
So you're the one releasing all those jacked up critical patches?
97, RE: Computer nerd!
Posted by Zulghinlour on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>So you're the one releasing all those jacked up critical
>patches?

Nah, I work on Visual Studio. I blame someone else for those.
98, Visual studio as in Studio Tools visual studio?
Posted by Barduin on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
In that case, damn love that prog. Am interaction designer and usability expert my self so i come across those programs from time to time.

//Barduin
100, Microsoft Visual Studio
Posted by Zulghinlour on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>In that case, damn love that prog. Am interaction designer
>and usability expert my self so i come across those programs
>from time to time.
>
>//Barduin

http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/
101, RE: Microsoft Visual Studio
Posted by nepenthe on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Which I, in turn, use for most of my work.

When there are problems, I blame Zulg. :)
150, RE: Microsoft Visual Studio
Posted by Eskelian on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Heh.

I use VS for most of my stuff as well. I also, however, use the Eclipse hack known as 'Zorn' that Macromedia pedals the Flex beta with.

It has made me much more patient and appreciative of VS ;).

Now, if you want to bitch someone out, get Zulg to give you a contact list of the Windows Installer people. Or, IIS 5.0 people. Proprietary metabase format? Wtf? Le` sigh.
149, RE: Computer nerd!
Posted by Eskelian on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
In 2005, I get a random black line occassional. Wtf is the deal with that? It doesn't scroll, it just chills on the screen, all diagonal like.

Also, if you can do me a slight favor...

Take a stroll over to the Sharepoint area (oh oh, and Windows Installer as well)...find the guys who put in such genius error codes as "Catastrophic error." and my personal favorite, "InstallUtilLib.dll has encountered an unknown error." and...if it isn't too much trouble...stab them repeatedly about the face and chest with a serrated knife.

Much thanks.



Addendum :

VS is a kickass prog. I've been using it since version 1, when I was doing DOS programming. Keep up the good work :).
1072, Argh!
Posted by Dwoggurd on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>Nah, I work on Visual Studio. I blame someone else for
>those.

Well, I'm getting really crazy trying to port a linux application that uses "snprintf" (which is C99 standard) to Windows + Visual Studio.
So my question is do you know when it will be in Visual Studio exactly as it defined in C99 ( _snprintf or sprintf_s are poor replacements )?
And if it is already, which version should I use?

And another question, whom should I blame for it? }(
3, Exports!
Posted by Crysseara on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
I work in international customer service, exporting large machinery bits to the world! I even get to use my ability to speak french and some spanish (pokito!), and occasionally learn a word in japanese. It's a fun job, though unfortunately I can't mud from work. :(
4, Wow! Tout ceci est très intéressant! (nt)
Posted by Beer on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
ty
81, Oooh! Tu m'en diras tant!!! (Kuchu)
Posted by Ujudludul on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
nt
92, Damn! I should have taunted you in french then! (nt)
Posted by Beer on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
dgf