You were correct. I never saw Ilrek online even once and then Dupa pretty much ignored me for whatever reason. I don't think he even responded once to multiple tells. Then he died so I got kinda turned off on the char and let him chill for a bit. When I saw a new leader I decided to dust him off. So you were exactly right on that account. I didn't really think the induction stuff was that bad. I have no problem killin someone (or many) to get inducted. :)