Sat Sep 7 07:47:57 2019

At 10 o'clock AM, Day of the Bull, 22nd of the Month of the Ancient Darkness
on the Theran calendar Hocnec perished, never to return.

Race:	human
Class:	assassin
Level:	51
Alignment:	Evil
Ethos:	Chaotic
Cabal:	BATTLE, the BattleRagers, Haters of Magic
Age:	59
Hours:	192

I'm assuming as other have said this was age gear? Was it intentional? I hope it was otherwise this could be very frustrating.

Anyway I really liked Hocrec, a great and steady presence in the Village, a powerhouse always ready to throw down regardless of the odds and a supportive elder for all us young ones.

Big thank you for all the help ranking, gearing and generally trying to get the Village back to strength.

Because if so this is what I have been arguing against for a long time now.

Age death at 192 hrs.

There should be nothing communed/cast/skill that has a permentant impact over the entire life of the character.

The aging component of wither needs to be removed. -30 strength is enough

I don't see any withers as being the issue here, I don't see him as having eaten wither aging from a brief glance (Edited to add: I'm wrong, more than a brief glance shows he did get wither aging once, but it wasn't enough to make him die at 192 hours). So I'm cutting off this complaint before it starts. The death thread can be kept to being a death thread, thanks.

-Ish

is a valid death thread discussion?

After all, age at death, and hours played, are in the data shared on the death thread.

I for one am very interested in why the character I knew age died so young with so few hours.

Probably +age gear if I had to guess.

you eat 10 deaths easily as a rager with 30 age and you're gonna go kaput

nh

I might be misinterpreting what you're saying, but it reads as if you think every time you wear a piece of plus age gear it takes X amount of years off your total life.

The only time age gear impacts you in a real way outside of killing you is bumping you from young-mature-middleaged-old. I can't remove a +10 ring and wear it and remove it and wear it and remove it and wear it and suddenly I'm 30 years older. I'd have to wear 2 +10 age rings at the same time to achieve a cumulative affect.

Whenever I want to age die early I'll grab ring/belt/weapons and age die pretty easy. This could easily be done as rager as well.

Maybe I didn't understand your response though.

Also loved Hocnec. Also hated Hocnec.

yes, your age goes up or down while you're wearing it

but if you die with it on then the +/- becomes permanent

so if you wear two +10 age rings and die 10 times with them on as a low age race (arial, human) it is going to screw you up far quicker. that's my understanding of + age gear and i think it impacts different races disproportionately based on their lifespan

Don't you get the age effect echoes when you die with it on?

Otherwise you could fountain of youth a char at the price of 1/3 con with -age gear. Just eat a death to gain a bunch of years. (if you know where to get -age gear, which is admittedly rare)

You could stack a bunch of -age gear on an arial, eat one death, and live forever. Arials would end up being the most hours as they could so easily rejuvenate, being that a year to them is far more hours than it is to an elf.

Also, people age die the second they die wearing -age gear, unless they can get it back on before the next tick which is unlikely, so the -age effect does not seem permanent.

no tubingos