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158, Pouch with shield potion
Posted by Zulghinlour on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Fixed next crash/reboot. Thank you for posting. I've added logging to track down other similar issues.
165, I cannot agree with your fix :-(
Posted by Dranthaax on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
Now I just can't get this pouch from the ground.
When I try, it says "You can't take that."
Is it now intended? It makes things very inconvenient.
Also, I have like ten such pouches in my girdle of endless space.
I can't get any of them from the girdle. "You can't take that." again.
I don't want to experiment emptying the girdle since I can't predict
how it will behave.
Could you please re-fix it so that one can take pouches, and that
one can get them from the container where they already are?
Thanks.
166, Disagree with it all you like...for now this is the fix
Posted by Zulghinlour on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>Now I just can't get this pouch from the ground.

Yup.

>When I try, it says "You can't take that."
>Is it now intended?

Yup.

>It makes things very inconvenient.

And?

>Also, I have like ten such pouches in my girdle of endless
>space.
>I can't get any of them from the girdle. "You can't take
>that." again.
>I don't want to experiment emptying the girdle since I can't
>predict
>how it will behave.
>Could you please re-fix it so that one can take pouches, and
>that
>one can get them from the container where they already are?

Nope. Empty should probably work as expected (dumping it from the container to the ground) but you won't be able to pick them back up.
201, RE: Disagree with it all you like...for now this is the fix
Posted by Dranthaax on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>>When I try, it says "You can't take that."
>>Is it now intended?
>
>Yup.
>
>>It makes things very inconvenient.
>
>And?

Well, less fun.
If this is not of importance, then what is?

I wanted to ask about "for now". Can I take it as a hint that some
time in the future it can be refixed?
For example, if such items as this pouch just never resetted their
content, it would be much easier, much more realistic and intuitive.
You get it, fine. You empty and drop it, even at the same place,
and it never resets until you remove it and let the next one appear.

Well, I understand you are a busy man, but if you take a minute and
explain why this is worse than your fix, I'd appreciate it.

Thanks.
206, RE: Disagree with it all you like...for now this is the fix
Posted by Zulghinlour on Wed 31-Dec-69 07:00 PM
>>>When I try, it says "You can't take that."
>>>Is it now intended?
>>
>>Yup.
>>
>>>It makes things very inconvenient.
>>
>>And?
>
>Well, less fun. If this is not of importance, then what is?

Less fun in that you can no longer exploit it? I could change it from a pouch to a chest, and nobody would think twice that it could no longer be picked up.

>I wanted to ask about "for now". Can I take it as a hint that some
>time in the future it can be refixed? For example, if such items
>as this pouch just never resetted their content, it would be much
>easier, much more realistic and intuitive.

In the long run, we might track down this problem and try and fix it as you suggest (I actually looked at that briefly) but I usually go for the quick and simple fix to something that is potentially completely unbalancing. I also ask myself something like, is it going to matter if someone can't pick up this pouch, and the answer is no. It's not.

>You get it, fine. You empty and drop it, even at the same place,
>and it never resets until you remove it and let the next one
>appear.
>
>Well, I understand you are a busy man, but if you take a
>minute and explain why this is worse than your fix, I'd appreciate
>it.

It's worse in that it's alot more work to fix, and potentially dangerous in totally screwing up the way resets of things into containers works.

>
>Thanks.